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Post by reigninbloodygore on Feb 27, 2021 2:56:23 GMT -5
What trends and elements in metal drive you crazy? Fun topic.
Here’s one I bet a lot of us can agree: uneventful, irrelevant intro tracks that do nothing!
Other than that, like I mentioned in the playlist thread, I hate when bands use the chorus or hook line of a song to spell a word, like how Death Dealer spells the word “kill.” I don’t need a spelling lesson, and it sounds cheesy and somewhat childish. Kill me now. lol
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Post by doomyguy on Feb 27, 2021 4:00:40 GMT -5
What trends and elements in metal drive you crazy? Fun topic. Here’s one I bet a lot of us can agree: uneventful, irrelevant intro tracks that do nothing! Other than that, like I mentioned in the playlist thread, I hate when bands use the chorus or hook line of a song to spell a word, like how Death Dealer spells the word “kill.” I don’t need a spelling lesson, and it sounds cheesy and somewhat childish. Kill me now. lol
Well, I for one, are grateful that bands have stopped using "hidden" tracks. Like the last track on Iron Will - still annoys me every damn time I accidentally include I am the North in a playlist.
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Post by metalcrypt on Feb 27, 2021 8:23:40 GMT -5
On top of useless intros, that thing where they have a silence at the end of a song and then some useless noise (that's typically at the end of an album) - kind of a derivative of a hidden track. Or silence in the middle of the album.
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Post by mjolnir on Feb 27, 2021 9:59:39 GMT -5
This is more of a grip about music in general, but I typically don't like it when a song fades out. More often than not, it sounds like the band didn't know how to end the song.
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Post by mystophales on Feb 27, 2021 10:03:17 GMT -5
The intro thing still annoys the shit out of me. If you are doing a concept album or the intro leads to something, then fine. I have never reviewed an album where I was like, "the album as a whole sucks ass but damn, the intro track slays!".
It just feels like sometimes bands think its a requirement to have an intro track. Kind of like the 80's where every band started to think a power ballad had to be included...lol
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Post by metalmike on Feb 27, 2021 10:37:38 GMT -5
I generally dislike albums that run longer than an hour. More often than not the band is just padding it out, repeating themselves or including songs that aren’t up to the quality of the rest of the album.
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Post by mjolnir on Feb 27, 2021 11:17:03 GMT -5
The intro thing still annoys the shit out of me. If you are doing a concept album or the intro leads to something, then fine. I have never reviewed an album where I was like, "the album as a whole sucks ass but damn, the intro track slays!". It just feels like sometimes bands think its a requirement to have an intro track. Kind of like the 80's where every band started to think a power ballad had to be included...lol My tin foil hat thought on this is that many bands think it gives them a song to start a show with that'll get the crowd excited for the opener. |
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Post by mystophales on Feb 27, 2021 14:13:31 GMT -5
I generally dislike albums that run longer than an hour. More often than not the band is just padding it out, repeating themselves or including songs that aren’t up to the quality of the rest of the album. That's a big one for me but oddly enough a lot more so over the last 10-15 years or so. Iron Maiden is a BIG offender of this. Still hands down my favorite band but their albums since Brave New World I personally think would be WAY better shorter. Just because you can put 74 minutes of music on a CD doesn't mean you should. |
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Post by mystophales on Feb 27, 2021 14:16:35 GMT -5
The intro thing still annoys the shit out of me. If you are doing a concept album or the intro leads to something, then fine. I have never reviewed an album where I was like, "the album as a whole sucks ass but damn, the intro track slays!". It just feels like sometimes bands think its a requirement to have an intro track. Kind of like the 80's where every band started to think a power ballad had to be included...lol My tin foil hat thought on this is that many bands think it gives them a song to start a show with that'll get the crowd excited for the opener. Never thought of that. Trying to think back at shows I have been to and if they started the show with the intro track. Considering how forgettable a lot of the intro tracks are, I honestly have no idea...lol You might have a point there though. |
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Post by metalmike on Feb 27, 2021 15:13:28 GMT -5
I generally dislike albums that run longer than an hour. More often than not the band is just padding it out, repeating themselves or including songs that aren’t up to the quality of the rest of the album. That's a big one for me but oddly enough a lot more so over the last 10-15 years or so. Iron Maiden is a BIG offender of this. Still hands down my favorite band but their albums since Brave New World I personally think would be WAY better shorter. Just because you can put 74 minutes of music on a CD doesn't mean you should. Exactly. Put your best 8-10 on an album and take the rest and either put out a second album a year later. Fans love new music, why put out 60+ of half good/half questionable material then make everyone wait 5 years for the next album? Maybe there's a reason, but I don't know what it is. |
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Post by mystophales on Feb 27, 2021 16:04:48 GMT -5
That's a big one for me but oddly enough a lot more so over the last 10-15 years or so. Iron Maiden is a BIG offender of this. Still hands down my favorite band but their albums since Brave New World I personally think would be WAY better shorter. Just because you can put 74 minutes of music on a CD doesn't mean you should. Exactly. Put your best 8-10 on an album and take the rest and either put out a second album a year later. Fans love new music, why put out 60+ of half good/half questionable material then make everyone wait 5 years for the next album? Maybe there's a reason, but I don't know what it is. Think about how much better Hard-Wired would have been if you cut it to about 45-50 minutes. There are some legitimate good songs on that album but I haven't really touched the album since maybe three months after I bought it. |
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Post by doomyguy on Feb 28, 2021 3:43:42 GMT -5
That's a big one for me but oddly enough a lot more so over the last 10-15 years or so. Iron Maiden is a BIG offender of this. Still hands down my favorite band but their albums since Brave New World I personally think would be WAY better shorter. Just because you can put 74 minutes of music on a CD doesn't mean you should. Exactly. Put your best 8-10 on an album and take the rest and either put out a second album a year later. Fans love new music, why put out 60+ of half good/half questionable material then make everyone wait 5 years for the next album? Maybe there's a reason, but I don't know what it is.
Because it is hard to make the good / half good call yourself I would guess. That is why producers/editors/directors etc play an important role in quality control. Nobody tells Steve Harris what to do any longer.
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Post by mystophales on Feb 28, 2021 11:27:43 GMT -5
Exactly. Put your best 8-10 on an album and take the rest and either put out a second album a year later. Fans love new music, why put out 60+ of half good/half questionable material then make everyone wait 5 years for the next album? Maybe there's a reason, but I don't know what it is.
Because it is hard to make the good / half good call yourself I would guess. That is why producers/editors/directors etc play an important role in quality control. Nobody tells Steve Harris what to do any longer.
he does have a tendency to meander a LOT. Some of these 7-10 minute epic songs he has been writing have some great ideas in them. Problem is, even as a huge fan of the band, I get bored and it ends up being a track I will skip. I think the reason the 75-85 era of maiden is considered the best is simply clear and concise records all around the 45 minute mark. Granted, part of that was also limited time you had if you wanted a single vinyl album vs a double LP. Either way it really seems like the perfect amount of time for an album is 45 minutes. |
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Post by metalcrypt on Feb 28, 2021 14:14:43 GMT -5
Because it is hard to make the good / half good call yourself I would guess. That is why producers/editors/directors etc play an important role in quality control. Nobody tells Steve Harris what to do any longer.
he does have a tendency to meander a LOT. Some of these 7-10 minute epic songs he has been writing have some great ideas in them. Problem is, even as a huge fan of the band, I get bored and it ends up being a track I will skip. I think the reason the 75-85 era of maiden is considered the best is simply clear and concise records all around the 45 minute mark. Granted, part of that was also limited time you had if you wanted a single vinyl album vs a double LP. Either way it really seems like the perfect amount of time for an album is 45 minutes. I remember being annoyed by the repetition on Brave New World, on the title track and The Wickerman and a few others as well. |
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Post by mystophales on Feb 28, 2021 22:42:06 GMT -5
Another pet peeve. Metal cover songs being placed in the middle of the album. I dont care if a band wants to do this but put the song at the end. It just completely ruins the flow of an album when you have a cover song in the middle, especially if its a metal version of some lame ass pop song.
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